HMS Agamemnon

Hartmut's Build Log Of His New "HMS Agamemnon"

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HMS Agamemnon

Post by Angarfather » Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:36 pm

To begin with,.........
oh no, this not Christmass Carrol, but the begining of my report of modelling HMS Agamemnon.

Last year, in April I was finishing Duke William, a navycutter from 1776. And there was the question, which the next project will be. It must be a british ship. You know I am living in Hannover, and there are old and good relations between my city and GB in the "age off sail". And therefore, it was shure: it should be a ship from the end of the 18. century, from Nelson's time!

But which ship? Victory? No, too big. A frigate, but which? As a fan of O'Brian's Jack Aubrey my first idea was to modell the Surprise. An than one day Mrs.Starke says: you have told me, that Agamemnon was Nelson's favorite. Think about this! A very good idea! I started searching informations over modelling HMS Agamemnon.
However, while I was searching in the web, I suddenly saw some pictures of HMS Pegasus. A Sloop, a sixth rate ship, and what beauty! And so she became my favorite in 2010. Modelling Pegasus was wonderfull, absolutly wonderfull. From the beginning in August 10 till today. But in this summer I saw, that Pegasus will be ready in December. And than?

Naturaly a new Project, and of course it must be HMS Agamemnon.

Oktober 28. I ordered the kit at Cornwall Modells, and 1.of November UPS delivered it.

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A realy big box, a heavy and full box, in fact. All materials, the plans and the instruction are in good stand.Only the thread from the kit is not so nice. As in modelling Pegasus I will use thread from Morope.


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On the right site you can see a plan of Pegasus in the same scale. Well, I think Agamemnon is a realy big ship.

There is a lot of work on "Angarfathers Dockyard" at present. Pegasus shall be finished in several days, and simultaneous is Agamemnons slipway under construction.

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Post by Pete Coleman » Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:11 pm

Oh boy! I know that I am going to enjoy this.... x26x
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Post by chrism » Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:16 pm

I too am climbing aboard ready to watch this one. From your past work you are I am sure about to show us something special with this one. It is a nice and also a very large model when it is made up.

There is a model built from this kit, at Bucklers Hard in Hampshire, where the original was built.

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Post by Rob » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:24 pm

I'm pulling up a chair to watch this one as well.
Looking forward to it.
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Post by dafi » Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:03 pm

Rob, I am coming to help you, shall I bring some pop corn?

Looking foreward too!

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Post by Angarfather » Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:46 pm

Thanks to all! x2x x2x

And I will do my very best.

Tomorrow I will travel to Frankurt by train. And there will be some hours for reading the Instruction and chapter 9 in the P. Julier`s Period Ship Handbook.

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Post by CODY614 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:33 am

Me too.....



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Post by Rob » Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:47 pm

Daniel bring some beer as well.
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Post by dafi » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:21 pm

Yes but german one, ice cold ;-)

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Post by Angarfather » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:45 pm

Hello everyone,
The slipway. I have made it in the dimensions which are given by the instruction. There are two special parts by my one. First I use three swiwelling clamps , and two stands on bow and stern. Thats gives a good and certain situation during assembeling the framework, and loading and release of keel and finished framework is easy.

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Before first dry run of the frame there was some work to do with a file at the bullwerksslots and the false keel. But its a pleasure to see how the parts build Agamemnons framework.

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Before glueing the walnut keel to the false keel I have milled a rabbet into the walnutkeel. That´s a good supposition for easy connecting the planking to the keel.

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The areas of the 5mm plydeck, especially under the dummy gun positions, seems to be a little to malleable. Therefore I reinforced this areas by glueing ledges.
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I think its a nice, sound and rigid and a big framework. I like it! x71x x71x

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Post by Maurice Wilcox » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:55 pm

What a beast Hartmut, you're making me envious already x4x

Happy Christmas to you.

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Post by chrism » Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:25 pm

I can also only repeat what Maurice said. Looks nice.

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Post by CODY614 » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:58 pm

Ditto....


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Re: HMS Agamemnon

Post by Angarfather » Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:16 pm

Hello everyone,

before mounting the batteriedeck I had to make some beams in nearly the same shape as the maindeck beams. I think that all decks of a ship are arched. The batteriedeck couldn't be plain. Otherwise there would be big problems to remove water from the deck. In connexion with this I am searching for informations of the scuppers position on batteriedeck.

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Before I started planking, I parted the false deck longitudinally into two parts for easier assembling it into the frame.
I glued the planks with PVA adhesive on the false deck after couloring the flanks with a black PITT artist pen. It is soluble by water, and together with the glue it builds a acceptable cautering.

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To show the nails I use this little device: two cutted hypodermic needles in the top of a soldering iron to burn in the covering of the nails.
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The assembly of the first part was no problem.

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By the way, during deckplanking I learned how big Agamemnon is.

regards Hartmut
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Post by Maurice Wilcox » Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:45 am

Neat method of representing treenails in the deck Hartmut x25x

As far as scupper are concerned, you will no doubt be aware of the lengthy investigations undertaken by Daniel.

Contemporary information would suggest that a 64 gun ship would have (6) scuppers on the Lower deck at 4" diameter, and (7) scuppers on the Upper deck at 3" diameter.

The actual positioning is probably open to some interpretation but Daniel's research should be of help and a general arrangement of one every two gunports would probably be not too far out.

I don't know if you are already aware of it but there is a book called Nelson's Favourite HMS Agamemnon at War 1781 - 1809 by Anthony Deane, I think you would find it interesting.

Regards,

Maurice

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